All about the next opponent: interview with Leverkusen expert Sebastian Bergmann

On Sun­day evening, defen­ding cham­pi­ons Lever­ku­sen visit Stutt­gart to clo­se out the match­day. Expert Sebas­ti­an Berg­mann from the Rhei­ni­sche Post gives us insight into the cur­rent situa­ti­on at the league’s second-pla­ced team.

With the Red Stri­pe: Hel­lo Sebas­ti­an, and thanks for taking the time to ans­wer our ques­ti­ons again. On Tues­day evening, Lever­ku­sen was eli­mi­na­ted from the Cham­pi­ons League by Bay­ern. How much did the club expect from this com­pe­ti­ti­on, espe­ci­al­ly after finis­hing the group stage as the best Ger­man team?

Sebas­ti­an: In the group stage, Bay­er won at home against both Milan teams, reaf­fir­ming their strong inter­na­tio­nal repu­ta­ti­on, which was alre­a­dy solid due to last season’s suc­cess. Addi­tio­nal­ly, it was their first time rea­ching the knock­out stage sin­ce 2016/17. Howe­ver, the matches against top teams—Liverpool (0–4) and Atlé­ti­co Madrid (1–2)—had alre­a­dy hin­ted that going all the way this sea­son would be dif­fi­cult. Get­ting kno­cked out by Bay­ern in the Round of 16 isn’t a cata­stro­phe for the club—it hap­pens. What real­ly bothers the play­ers and staff, though, is the man­ner in which they were eli­mi­na­ted. Befo­re this, Xabi Alon­so had a per­fect record against Bay­ern, but this time, Lever­ku­sen was lar­ge­ly wit­hout a chan­ce in both legs. That was defi­ni­te­ly not what they had hoped for under the Bay­er Cross.

In the league, Lever­ku­sen couldn’t capi­ta­li­ze on the unex­pec­ted home loss of the league lea­ders and ins­tead lost to Bre­men. What led to their second defeat of the sea­son, and how do you assess their chan­ces of defen­ding the title?

The loss to Bre­men was a result of indi­vi­du­al mista­kes, a dip in form among key play­ers, and a lack of focus bet­ween the two Cham­pi­ons League matches against Bay­ern. In Lever­ku­sen, they have a rea­li­stic view of their title chan­ces. Of cour­se, as always, they say: “As long as it’s mathe­ma­ti­cal­ly pos­si­ble…” But it’s hard to ima­gi­ne Munich han­ding them ano­ther life­line. The goal now is likely to secu­re second place as ear­ly as pos­si­ble.

That lea­ves the DFB-Pokal, whe­re they face Bie­le­feld in ear­ly April and could poten­ti­al­ly meet VfB in the final. Would Lever­ku­sen be satis­fied with “just” one tro­phy?

Abso­lut­e­ly. After more than 30 years wit­hout sil­ver­wa­re, a sea­son ending with a Cham­pi­ons League Round of 16 finish, second place in the league, and a DFB-Pokal vic­to­ry would still be a success—despite last year’s incre­di­ble dou­ble-win­ning sea­son. If they fail to win the cup, though, it would be a pain­ful set­back.

Flo­ri­an Wirtz was inju­red in the game against Bre­men and is side­lined for now. How big of a gap does his absence lea­ve in your opi­ni­on?

There’s no deba­te that Flo­ri­an Wirtz is a phe­no­me­nal foot­bal­ler and one of the world’s best. His absence is a mas­si­ve blow to the team. He’s their top scorer, an indefa­tigab­le worker, and the crea­ti­ve brain of the team. It’s obvious that Bay­er can’t ful­ly replace him. Moreo­ver, he’s been play­ing even bet­ter this sea­son than during their cham­pi­on­ship-win­ning cam­paign. In tight games, he’s the one who makes the dif­fe­rence. That said, even wit­hout the 21-year-old, Lever­ku­sen still has enough qua­li­ty in their squad to field a top Bun­des­li­ga team.

Lever­ku­sen has fai­led to score in their last three com­pe­ti­ti­ve matches—probably a first under Xabi Alon­so. Is this just a tem­po­ra­ry slump or a worry­ing trend?

In fact, in five of their last seven com­pe­ti­ti­ve games, they didn’t score at all. Asi­de from their impres­si­ve 4–1 win in Frank­furt, their attack­ing play and finis­hing have been lack­ing lately—regardless of who was on the pitch. The trend is working against Lever­ku­sen right now. Howe­ver, it’s hard to ima­gi­ne their offen­si­ve strug­gles beco­ming a long-term issue.

VfB has won just one of their last seven league games—against Cham­pi­ons League quar­ter­fi­na­lists Dortmund—but also put in a solid per­for­mance against Bay­ern. What kind of game do you expect on Sun­day evening?

I expect ano­ther tac­ti­cal­ly and tech­ni­cal­ly high-qua­li­ty match. The­se are two teams with simi­lar play­ing phi­lo­so­phies. There’s no clear favo­ri­te. Given the events of their pre­vious encoun­ters, it’s safe to expect ano­ther inten­se game.

Whe­re do you see Leverkusen’s strengths and weak­ne­s­ses ahead of the match?

Lever­ku­sen can wear down oppon­ents with their pos­ses­si­on play, but they also have ple­nty of opti­ons for coun­ter­at­tack­ing and are strong in coun­ter-pres­sing. Howe­ver, they haven’t main­tai­ned their high defen­si­ve stan­dards from last sea­son and have alre­a­dy con­ce­ded more goals than they did in their enti­re title-win­ning cam­paign. If you mana­ge to neu­tra­li­ze key play­ers like Gra­nit Xha­ka and quick­ly tran­si­ti­on through mid­field, you can cau­se them pro­blems.

Like Sebas­ti­an Hoe­neß, Xabi Alon­so is con­stant­ly lin­ked with other clubs—an ine­vi­ta­ble con­se­quence of being a suc­cessful coach. Do you think Alon­so will still be on the touch­li­ne next sea­son? And if not, could Bay­er look toward Stutt­gart for a repla­ce­ment?

The fact that Real Madrid rea­ched the Cham­pi­ons League quar­ter­fi­nals with Car­lo Ance­lot­ti this week was likely noted with some reli­ef in Lever­ku­sen. Right now, the signs point to Alon­so stay­ing for ano­ther year. He’s repea­ted­ly empha­si­zed that he’s still a young coach who needs to keep lear­ning. He can do that much more effec­tively in the Bun­des­li­ga than at a top inter­na­tio­nal club, whe­re dis­trac­tions would be grea­ter. That would be a com­ple­te­ly dif­fe­rent sto­ry in Madrid. Last year, he announ­ced his decis­i­on to stay at the end of March. We could see a simi­lar time­line this year—then we’ll know more.

Sebas­ti­an Hoe­neß cer­tain­ly fits Bayer’s pro­fi­le for a poten­ti­al suc­ces­sor and would likely be high on their list. Howe­ver, the spe­cu­la­ti­on isn’t as inten­se as it was at one point.

Final­ly, your pre­dic­ted lin­e­up and score?

Pre­dic­tion: 2–2.

Note: This inter­view was trans­la­ted from Ger­man via ChatGPT

Pic­tu­re: © Adam Pretty/Getty Images

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